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 Post subject: Replacing the Clutch Question
PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 7:32 pm 
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I was on the other Rebel 250 Site and one of the members mentioned something about replacing the original Clutch Springs with the EBC springs being a bad Idea.

He suggested I report over here and find out about the recent discussion.

My 2004 CMX250 has 1,800 miles on it and the clutch just started slipping in 4th and 5th gear.

I ordered the EBC Clutch plates and they advertise their springs are 10% stronger than stock, so I had the shop order a set of those too.

Should I just throw them in the garbage and use the original ones?

I really need to know.

Also, who makes the best replacement Friction Plates for the Honda Rebel?

If you have an opinion, let me know

If you know for a fact, then make a strong recommendation.

Do not let me make a big mistake.

FerrariMX5

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PostPosted: Tue Sep 28, 2010 7:34 pm 
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Measure your factory springs. If they're still in spec, then re-use them if you must. If you replace them, get Honda springs.

Aftermarket springs of all flavors have resulted in nothing but heartache for anyone here who has ever tried them. After market plates and steels are fine; the springs are not.

What folks don't realize about the aftermarket is that almost _nothing_ aftermarket is model-specific; they are designed as a "best fit" amongst a range of machines in order to maximize ROI. However, in this case, it doesn't quite work.

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That was a great explanation. Now I wish I had just ordered the Honda Friction plates. I trust EBC because they make great brake pads. I will trust them on the replacement Friction disks, but throw away the springs!!!


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 5:33 am 
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Since you own an '04, I strongly recommend you do a search here, using the keyword 'judder spring'.
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Agreed on the Jutter Spring. I made the Repair shop aware of the problem and they will report to me if in fact it was revesrsed! 1.800 Miles on a factory clutch is unacceptable, but Honda is not concerned about the bad PR.

FerrariMX5

And why should they worry. I totally trust the reliability of Honda, just seems like it would be in their favor to offer the friction plates for free!!!


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PostPosted: Wed Sep 29, 2010 3:45 pm 
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Im suprised to here that about EBC springs, Ive used them for years when I rode dirt bikes and never had any problems.

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To the best of my knowledge, the Rebel is the only bike that they just misjudged.

The plates and steels are fine, however.

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everything everybody said is on the money.

the PROBLEM with ebc heavy duty springs is the inside diameter is a couple of mm's too small. mic it and mic your factory springs before you install.

they'll grab and prevent the gears from engaging completely, resulting in broken teeth.

happened to me and i parted out my 85 250 and bought a shadow.


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 03, 2010 7:16 pm 
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True enough. If you get curious (or bored) you can go through the old stuff on the board and find out that Jeff isn't the only person that this happened to, and every time it was aftermarket springs. :(

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jeff schenkel wrote:

happened to me and I parted out my 85 250 and bought a shadow.


And if I remember Jeff had about 60K miles on his Rebel.

It was a sad day for me too, I thought that he might make it up to 90K miles, where I was at, or even 100K, and give me some incentive to keep chalking up the miles.


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something like that but i bought it with 25,000 on it.

funny, of course demands of work have changed but the shadow doesn't get ridden near as much as the reb.


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