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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 1:04 pm    Post subject: 4 gears topping out at 55mph...is this normal for an '86 250 Reply with quoteFind all posts by theskindiver

I take my '86 250 on the freeway for just about a mile or so on my commute. I only seem to have four gears and I top out at about 50mph, 55 if I really push. I also have very little acceleration in any gear. Does this seem normal for this bike?
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 1:38 pm    Post subject: Re: 4 gears topping out at 55mph...is this normal for an '86 250 Reply with quoteFind all posts by ddouble

Welcome!

Your bike should have five gears. One down, four up.

This thread may help. There is a video too.

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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 5:07 pm    Post subject: Re: 4 gears topping out at 55mph...is this normal for an '86 250 Reply with quoteFind all posts by Shadow Shack

...and fourth should carry you up to at least 65mph before shifting into top gear. Those little red hash marks on the speedo face serve as maximum speed/shift points per gear.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 9:54 pm    Post subject: Re: 4 gears topping out at 55mph...is this normal for an '86 250 Reply with quoteFind all posts by Kevin

Shadow Shack wrote:
...and fourth should carry you up to at least 65mph before shifting into top gear. Those little red hash marks on the speedo face serve as maximum speed/shift points per gear.


Wow, I would never go that fast in fourth. I upshifted as soon as I could, and I was able to get over 100 mpg in the summers, at least before it passed 50K miles.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:01 pm    Post subject: Re: 4 gears topping out at 55mph...is this normal for an '86 Reply with quoteFind all posts by bB2NER

theskindiver wrote:
I take my '86 250 on the freeway for just about a mile or so on my commute. I only seem to have four gears and I top out at about 50mph, 55 if I really push. I also have very little acceleration in any gear. Does this seem normal for this bike?
Def. not normal. You should be able to top out above 65 in high (fifth gear)
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:14 pm    Post subject: Re: 4 gears topping out at 55mph...is this normal for an '86 250 Reply with quoteFind all posts by theskindiver

What does "one down for four up" mean? I do notice that when I downshift and then the green neutral light goes on, there appears to be something below that...but I didn't think it was a gear...
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:24 pm    Post subject: Re: 4 gears topping out at 55mph...is this normal for an '86 250 Reply with quoteFind all posts by danger

The shift pattern is
1 N 2 3 4 5

The gear below Neutral is 1st; good for getting started from a dead stop.. and not much else.

also, no, 55mph is not normal unless you have the aerodynamic profile of a barn door.
Try staying in 4th longer before shifting to 5th as others have suggested. Hondas like to be revved higher than you are probably used to.
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:41 pm    Post subject: Re: 4 gears topping out at 55mph...is this normal for an '86 250 Reply with quoteFind all posts by theskindiver

smurf, so I've been starting in 2nd all this time...yikes... Maybe it is a rev thing. When I get to around 50mph if feels like it's revving pretty high, but maybe that's how it rolls?

Thanks for the response...
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 4:22 am    Post subject: Re: 4 gears topping out at 55mph...is this normal for an '86 250 Reply with quoteFind all posts by Shadow Shack

Please don't take this the wrong way, but might I suggest a MSF course? Lots of valuable stuff that can be learned in those, and more often than not they use Rebels.

Kevin wrote:
Wow, I would never go that fast in fourth.


Never said anyone had to...just that it could. Wink Seriously though, the motor can be safely revved to those hash marks in normal conditions (dry/level road, no headwind, etc).
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 11:20 am    Post subject: Re: 4 gears topping out at 55mph...is this normal for an '86 250 Reply with quoteFind all posts by theskindiver

What is an MSF course? There is a highway patrol sporsored motorcycle course around here but they want $250 to take it...not in the cards for me right now...
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:07 pm    Post subject: Re: 4 gears topping out at 55mph...is this normal for an '86 250 Reply with quoteFind all posts by wheezeburnt

Motorcycle Safety Foundation (MSF)
I'm sure the Highway Patrol -sponsored version would be useful, too.

$250 only seems expensive til you hurt your bike or carcass. Not saying you will, but you may reduce the odds by taking a course.
(just my opinion, of course)

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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 1:16 pm    Post subject: Re: 4 gears topping out at 55mph...is this normal for an '86 250 Reply with quoteFind all posts by danger

Everyone should take the MSF class.

I paid 140 I thnk for mine. Check with a local community college, they should offer it around that price.

It is worth the $250 price for sure either way.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 1:20 pm    Post subject: Re: 4 gears topping out at 55mph...is this normal for an '86 250 Reply with quoteFind all posts by SG-1

theskindiver wrote:
What is an MSF course? There is a highway patrol sporsored motorcycle course around here but they want $250 to take it...not in the cards for me right now...


I take it you do NOT have a motorcycle license?

H-D also has Rider's Edge classes, not sure if they still do after cutting costs.

The MSF or RE classes are definitely worth the money. They burn-in all the basics you need to know about motorcycles.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:42 pm    Post subject: Re: 4 gears topping out at 55mph...is this normal for an '86 250 Reply with quoteFind all posts by amckenzie4

I'm going to add another vote for the MSF course, or at least SOME kind of good training course. You'll be a much safer and more comfortable rider afterwards.

If you can't afford that, then go through their manuals and website, and read everything you can. Their web site is http://www.msf-usa.org, and if you click on the link labeled "Library/Safety Tips" at the top, it will take you to a page full of useful resources.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:49 pm    Post subject: Re: 4 gears topping out at 55mph...is this normal for an '86 250 Reply with quoteFind all posts by hercman

You may even recoup some of that in savings from your insurance company. Some give discounts for successful completion of a safety course.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 4:26 pm    Post subject: Re: 4 gears topping out at 55mph...is this normal for an '86 250 Reply with quoteFind all posts by Duckster

wheezeburnt wrote:
Motorcycle Safety Foundation (MSF)
I'm sure the Highway Patrol -sponsored version would be useful, too.

$250 only seems expensive til you hurt your bike or carcass. Not saying you will, but you may reduce the odds by taking a course.
(just my opinion, of course)

brent


Sad to say its $430 to take it here. Still a good deal compared to an accident. Plus its fun too. (unless its raining ) Laughing
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 5:09 pm    Post subject: Re: 4 gears topping out at 55mph...is this normal for an '86 250 Reply with quoteFind all posts by Alan

Getting back on track here...

I wonder if a previous owner of your motorcycle put on some custom sprockets. Maybe a 13-tooth front sprocket?

That would explain why you've been starting out in 2nd gear all the time without realizing it, and would also explain why, 3 gears later, you're reaching your limit at only 55 mph.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 5:30 pm    Post subject: Re: 4 gears topping out at 55mph...is this normal for an '86 250 Reply with quoteFind all posts by Shadow Shack

With "very little acceleration" in any gear (as quoted from the initial post), I doubt the problem is a smaller front sprocket...that mod makes acceleration more efficient (but does lose some top speed...but I can't see it being that drastic as 55mph tops)

Check out www.msf-usa.org for a course near you (or see if your local Harley dealer offers the Riders Edge class) and also take a gander at www.beginerbikers.org , a little training can go a long way.
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 09, 2010 9:37 pm    Post subject: Re: 4 gears topping out at 55mph...is this normal for an '86 250 Reply with quoteFind all posts by Duke

Alan wrote:
Getting back on track here...

I wonder if a previous owner of your motorcycle put on some custom sprockets. Maybe a 13-tooth front sprocket?


I expect it was just jumping on the freeway before actually getting familiar with the bike, or even knowing how it worked. Laughing Starting out in second, then shifting it like it's a car or a big V or something---

there'd only be four gears, and it would _never_ move because it would never get into the power range; it would just lug endlessly.
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