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rebelwithacause85
Joined: 14 Jan 2010
1985 Honda Rebel 250
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 12:54 am Post subject: when to change gears(mph) |
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I just bought an 85 REBEL(my first bike). And was wondering at what mph do you change from 1 to 2 then 2 to3 ect. while you are just
cruising going thru gears and geting on it going threw gears.In mph please
sorry for such a dumb question but, have to stat somewhere and I just dont want to mess anything up, By the way the bike is in absolute perfect running order, just had everything tuned up. thanks |
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jsonder
Joined: 16 Oct 2005 Location: AZ, Green Valley, these days
1989 Honda NX250 2006 Honda Rebel 250 2009 Honda CRF230L
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teookie
Joined: 26 May 2008
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 11:29 am Post subject: Re: when to change gears(mph) |
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| The red lines on your speedo show you where you LATEST shift point for each gear should be. Stay within those limits, and the rest just depends on how big a hurry your in. |
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LaFazinator
Joined: 29 Sep 2009 Location: US, Delaware
1985 Honda Rebel 250
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 11:37 am Post subject: Re: when to change gears(mph) |
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I had asked the same question before (which you'll see when you do your search, like I should have done, haha). 1st Gear might as well be considered playing "hot potatoe." There's not much reason to be in it, and you can shift out of it fairly early and at pretty low speeds.
Don't think about mph. You'll feel when you need to shift. Just remember, it's better to be in a lower gear and rev it higher than a higher gear and rev it lower. Apparently, the reb does wonderfully when it's rev'd high. |
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danger
Joined: 11 Oct 2009 Location: NY, Queens
2008 Honda Rebel 250
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Posted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 11:51 am Post subject: Re: when to change gears(mph) |
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Because there is no tach or gear indicator, a very good thing to do over time is to develop an ear for your engine.
You may make mistakes while shifting, but the sound of your engine will never lie. If your baby's screamin at you you need to shift up lickity split, and if it's sputtering it's last breath's you need to go down. _________________ Odometer: 9940 |
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rebelwithacause85
Joined: 14 Jan 2010
1985 Honda Rebel 250
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Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 3:59 pm Post subject: Re: when to change gears(mph) |
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| thank yall thats what I have been doin with her, and have got it dialed now,but yea shoulda used the search function(my bad haha) ,but I guess I just like hearing my questions awnsered personally I know some of yall now what I mean. thanx again |
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rebelwithacause85
Joined: 14 Jan 2010
1985 Honda Rebel 250
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Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 4:06 pm Post subject: Re: when to change gears(mph) |
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| just used search feature very helpful, thought they were shift indicators but obviously not. even though I never chaged gears at the marking, allways before. thanks |
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LaFazinator
Joined: 29 Sep 2009 Location: US, Delaware
1985 Honda Rebel 250
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Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 4:51 pm Post subject: Re: when to change gears(mph) |
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| Do you live near hills/mountains? I don't, but I imagine that you would need to depend even more on your feel for shifting in that case. MPH "markers" would be basically useless, then. |
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jsonder
Joined: 16 Oct 2005 Location: AZ, Green Valley, these days
1989 Honda NX250 2006 Honda Rebel 250 2009 Honda CRF230L
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Posted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 6:47 pm Post subject: Re: when to change gears(mph) |
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| LaFazinator wrote: | | Do you live near hills/mountains? I don't, but I imagine that you would need to depend even more on your feel for shifting in that case. MPH "markers" would be basically useless, then. |
I'm confused here. speed ~ engine speed x gearing factor
In the hills you may run up a bit closer to the red line indicators before shifting, but not a whole lot. In 4th gear a standard Rebel is pretty happy from 45 mph to 65 mph. I once got a bit carried away doing that.  _________________ John, 1989 NX250, 2009 CRF230L (L'il Red Piglet), 2001 Rebel - sold
nekid bikes feel faster
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LaFazinator
Joined: 29 Sep 2009 Location: US, Delaware
1985 Honda Rebel 250
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Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 7:36 pm Post subject: Re: when to change gears(mph) |
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| Sonder, wouldn't you want to be in a lower gear while going up a hill? (I have pretty much ZERO gradient experience...) |
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Duke Forum Administrator
Joined: 25 Jul 2003 Location: Georgia, Vidalia. Onion City and Beyond!
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Posted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 10:19 pm Post subject: Re: when to change gears(mph) |
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That's what he's saying:
The lower the gear, the higher the engine revs to produce similar speed.
Keeping it in a lower gear keeps it closer to the redline  _________________
Duke
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LaFazinator
Joined: 29 Sep 2009 Location: US, Delaware
1985 Honda Rebel 250
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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 10:54 am Post subject: Re: when to change gears(mph) |
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| Aaah, gotcha ;0) Makes sense :0) |
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97OldSchool
Joined: 13 Jan 2010 Location: Gilbert, Arizona
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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 4:18 pm Post subject: Re: when to change gears(mph) |
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So the rebel likes to be reved high? and draw out the gears to the max shift point? I kinda liked shifting early and keeping it low and crusing  _________________
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Duckster
Joined: 23 Feb 2009 Location: New Brunswick, Fredericton
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Posted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 4:58 pm Post subject: Re: when to change gears(mph) |
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The Rebel doesn't mind revving high, but Its probably more accurate to say it would prefer revving high to lugging it down by putting it under a high load (lots of throttle) at a low RPM.
Having said that, the only time you need to go near redline in the lower gears is if you absolutely must have the maximum acceleration available, which is hardly ever. There's nothing wrong with "short shifting" and accelerating at a moderate pace with moderate throttle and minimum noise, fuel consumption and wear and tear.
Its all about developing a "feel" for the engine, so that you aren't "lugging" it by holding a lot of throttle on it at low RPM. Riders should not spend a lot of time fixating on those little red lines on the speedo when their attention would be better spent watching for road hazards. _________________ 2004 Honda Rebel 250
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LaFazinator
Joined: 29 Sep 2009 Location: US, Delaware
1985 Honda Rebel 250
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Posted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 1:18 pm Post subject: Re: when to change gears(mph) |
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| I've got some horses around where I live, and whenever I go by them I tend to go at a crawl in 2nd gear...keeps the bike VERY quiet. I don't know how skiddish they would get, but I figure it's a courtesy to the farmers and herders. |
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maverick
Joined: 26 Aug 2010 Location: Alabama, Arab
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Posted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 1:56 pm Post subject: Re: when to change gears(mph) |
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| Quote: | | I've got some horses around where I live, and whenever I go by them I tend to go at a crawl in 2nd gear...keeps the bike VERY quiet. I don't know how skiddish they would get, but I figure it's a courtesy to the farmers and herders. |
That's very courteous of you, and not something I had considered. I live on a rural road with a TON of horses and cattle (and there is a riding stable across the road from my farm). I didn't even think about whether the motorcycle will startle them. Now I'll be sure not to go tearing down through there... |
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