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rebelwithacause85



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 12:54 am    Post subject: when to change gears(mph) Reply with quoteFind all posts by rebelwithacause85

I just bought an 85 REBEL(my first bike). And was wondering at what mph do you change from 1 to 2 then 2 to3 ect. while you are just
cruising going thru gears and geting on it going threw gears.In mph please
sorry for such a dumb question but, have to stat somewhere and I just dont want to mess anything up, By the way the bike is in absolute perfect running order, just had everything tuned up. thanks
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jsonder



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 9:46 am    Post subject: Re: when to change gears(mph) Reply with quoteFind all posts by jsonder

Try using the SEARCH function.

http://www.rebel250.com/rebelforum/viewtopic.php?t=16395&highlight=shift+points
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 11:29 am    Post subject: Re: when to change gears(mph) Reply with quoteFind all posts by teookie

The red lines on your speedo show you where you LATEST shift point for each gear should be. Stay within those limits, and the rest just depends on how big a hurry your in.
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LaFazinator



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 11:37 am    Post subject: Re: when to change gears(mph) Reply with quoteFind all posts by LaFazinator

I had asked the same question before (which you'll see when you do your search, like I should have done, haha). 1st Gear might as well be considered playing "hot potatoe." There's not much reason to be in it, and you can shift out of it fairly early and at pretty low speeds.

Don't think about mph. You'll feel when you need to shift. Just remember, it's better to be in a lower gear and rev it higher than a higher gear and rev it lower. Apparently, the reb does wonderfully when it's rev'd high.
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danger



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 15, 2010 11:51 am    Post subject: Re: when to change gears(mph) Reply with quoteFind all posts by danger

Because there is no tach or gear indicator, a very good thing to do over time is to develop an ear for your engine.

You may make mistakes while shifting, but the sound of your engine will never lie. If your baby's screamin at you you need to shift up lickity split, and if it's sputtering it's last breath's you need to go down.
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rebelwithacause85



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 3:59 pm    Post subject: Re: when to change gears(mph) Reply with quoteFind all posts by rebelwithacause85

thank yall thats what I have been doin with her, and have got it dialed now,but yea shoulda used the search function(my bad haha) ,but I guess I just like hearing my questions awnsered personally I know some of yall now what I mean. thanx again
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rebelwithacause85



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 4:06 pm    Post subject: Re: when to change gears(mph) Reply with quoteFind all posts by rebelwithacause85

just used search feature very helpful, thought they were shift indicators but obviously not. even though I never chaged gears at the marking, allways before. thanks
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LaFazinator



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PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 4:51 pm    Post subject: Re: when to change gears(mph) Reply with quoteFind all posts by LaFazinator

Do you live near hills/mountains? I don't, but I imagine that you would need to depend even more on your feel for shifting in that case. MPH "markers" would be basically useless, then.
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 16, 2010 6:47 pm    Post subject: Re: when to change gears(mph) Reply with quoteFind all posts by jsonder

LaFazinator wrote:
Do you live near hills/mountains? I don't, but I imagine that you would need to depend even more on your feel for shifting in that case. MPH "markers" would be basically useless, then.



I'm confused here. speed ~ engine speed x gearing factor

In the hills you may run up a bit closer to the red line indicators before shifting, but not a whole lot. In 4th gear a standard Rebel is pretty happy from 45 mph to 65 mph. I once got a bit carried away doing that. Embarassed
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 7:36 pm    Post subject: Re: when to change gears(mph) Reply with quoteFind all posts by LaFazinator

Sonder, wouldn't you want to be in a lower gear while going up a hill? (I have pretty much ZERO gradient experience...)
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 18, 2010 10:19 pm    Post subject: Re: when to change gears(mph) Reply with quoteFind all posts by Duke

That's what he's saying:

The lower the gear, the higher the engine revs to produce similar speed.

Keeping it in a lower gear keeps it closer to the redline Wink
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LaFazinator



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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 10:54 am    Post subject: Re: when to change gears(mph) Reply with quoteFind all posts by LaFazinator

Aaah, gotcha ;0) Makes sense :0)
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 4:18 pm    Post subject: Re: when to change gears(mph) Reply with quoteFind all posts by 97OldSchool

So the rebel likes to be reved high? and draw out the gears to the max shift point? I kinda liked shifting early and keeping it low and crusing Smile
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2010 4:58 pm    Post subject: Re: when to change gears(mph) Reply with quoteFind all posts by Duckster

The Rebel doesn't mind revving high, but Its probably more accurate to say it would prefer revving high to lugging it down by putting it under a high load (lots of throttle) at a low RPM.
Having said that, the only time you need to go near redline in the lower gears is if you absolutely must have the maximum acceleration available, which is hardly ever. There's nothing wrong with "short shifting" and accelerating at a moderate pace with moderate throttle and minimum noise, fuel consumption and wear and tear.
Its all about developing a "feel" for the engine, so that you aren't "lugging" it by holding a lot of throttle on it at low RPM. Riders should not spend a lot of time fixating on those little red lines on the speedo when their attention would be better spent watching for road hazards.
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 20, 2010 1:18 pm    Post subject: Re: when to change gears(mph) Reply with quoteFind all posts by LaFazinator

I've got some horses around where I live, and whenever I go by them I tend to go at a crawl in 2nd gear...keeps the bike VERY quiet. I don't know how skiddish they would get, but I figure it's a courtesy to the farmers and herders.
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maverick



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PostPosted: Fri Aug 27, 2010 1:56 pm    Post subject: Re: when to change gears(mph) Reply with quoteFind all posts by maverick

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I've got some horses around where I live, and whenever I go by them I tend to go at a crawl in 2nd gear...keeps the bike VERY quiet. I don't know how skiddish they would get, but I figure it's a courtesy to the farmers and herders.


That's very courteous of you, and not something I had considered. I live on a rural road with a TON of horses and cattle (and there is a riding stable across the road from my farm). I didn't even think about whether the motorcycle will startle them. Now I'll be sure not to go tearing down through there...
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